The rest of us. … Not so much.

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    I saw a conservative women on a dating app put in her bio that she wonders why their aren’t any good conservative men…

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    I assume that many of them think they’re “not like other girls” and thus an exception.

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    To be fair, I’ve bet a bunch of misogynistic republican women too. I’ve had family claim women are too emotional to be in government

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      You sure can be a bigot against your own group. There are definitely plenty of misogynist women out there.

      It’s rather sad to see. Especially in an older woman. Because I get being raised in a society that devalues women, and starting to believe it. I think a lot of women have to acknowledge this at some point, and fight against it. Even a lot of men I know, who ive had conversations with, admitted to haveing mysoginist views when younger and had to address them.

      It’s not surprising that women, too, would be affected by beliefs promoted through media and social interactions.

      When I was a young woman, I often found myself blaming other women for misogyny in men. Kinda fucked up looking back on it. But I did.

      But as I got older, even by age ~20, I realized it’s all b.s. and I was being tricked into victim blaming.

      But to be a woman of 30 or older, you should have enough life experience at that point that you know it’s all b.s. Any woman of that age has no excuse to perpetuate oppression of their own group.

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    Progressive women when they find out conservative women are genuinely patriarchal and uninterested in feminism

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      Well. It’s tricky. They sure do like the benefits of feminism. But they deny it.

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        Conservatives only believe what they experience personally so they don’t know what feminism has provided for them. They need the privilege taken away to appreciate what feminism does for them.

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          Anti-feminist propaganda is a real thing. As a guy I like to think I’m fairly progressive but believed a lot of the hate against feminism even as an adult. The women I knew were “the good ones”.

          The thing is it was based on caricatures of feminism, outliers and extremists, and the claim that feminism is no longer necessary. I’m sure those extremists exists and we are closer to gender equality than historically but feminism has helped us all and we do need more of it.

          We had children before there was any paternity leave in the US. I must have been complaining that I wished I could spend more time with my newborn, but it was the feminist group at work who went to demand there be paternity leave, because equal is equal and paternity leave helps everyone

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            The word has been branded “dirty”. I met a guy who said he supported equality between genders but wasn’t a feminist. I’m like, my dude, that’s literally the definition of feminism. It’s just wanting equality.

            He argued and argued that he wasn’t a “feminist”.
            While still claiming he supported every ideal of feminism.

            He insisted feminist were “blue hair girls with nose rings who told everyone they were bigoted and ruined video games”.

            I blame the bro culture. And specifically Asmongld. That tool.

            Invents imaginary women stereotype, and then blames the imaginary women for all his problems and why he has to be misogynist. They drove him to it. These imaginary women are the cause.

            It all just gets old real fast.

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          I would agree with you, except I lived in Texas for a decade, and I saw women vote against themselves multiple times.

          I saw Greg Abbott put forward one of the legislative pieces that was the basis for RvW being repealed (the 6 week “heartbeat” bill).

          Then I saw the 5th circuit support it.

          Then I saw Greg Abbott/Dan Patrick/Ken Paxton/John Cornyn/Ted Cruz get voted in again afterwards. And none of those elections can be blamed on gerrymandering, because they were all popular vote elections.

          So yeah, I just think conservative women are true believers who are willing to show up to the polls. Even if it means giving up their own rights.

          Because I do not believe that all of those conservative women are rich. They’re fucking brainwashed. And they’ll continue to be brainwashed because they’re too proud to admiy anything else. Even if they’re poor af.

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      Yet these “conservative” women enjoy and utilize all the benefits and rights feminism brought them so they’re in fact feminists. Why aren’t they home making sandwiches for their horde of children? Shouldn’t they be seen and not heard? Make it make sense. Definitely some cognitive dissonance going on here.

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        Pro Fetus. Once the kid is born they couldn’t care less. Homeless, starving, sold to traffickers? No problem. As long as they are born first.

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            That sounds on par for course. They have a valod reason, but other people that do it don’t and are terrible people.

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              Not really. She was pregnant before she was ready to have a kid and aborted it. She didn’t feel like others should be allowed the same grace.

              Didn’t even feel particularly bad about the hypocrisy.

              Someone will soon link the “Mine Is The Only Moral Abortion” article. Can confirm — it’s real.

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                Ah, you dated my mother in the 80s, how does it feel to be old af?

                Haha, I kid. But legit, when I brought up her hypocrisy, her answer was: “Yes but people have more options now, so they shouldn’t be getting pregnant as easily.”

                And then when I pointed out that only people with access have more options, not poor people, her answer was: "Okay, well, a $15 box of condoms is STILL cheaper than a $300 abortion, so you’re still wrong."i

                The fucking sheer audacity.

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                  There was some Republicans woman who came to the university campus I was at to “debate” abortion. She had a lot of straight up lies about the biology aspect.

                  But she also had previously had an abortion herself.

                  And she had like 7 kids.

                  She also didn’t think women should be allowed to vote.

                  But here she was. Using her feminist freedoms to travel around, instead of being home with her kids and husband, to speak lies and harm girls. To take away their right to choose even tho she herself had an abortion.

                  Rights for me but not for thee.

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                  Here’s the article I alluded to: https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/

                  I’m not sure it explains it, but it dives into the phenomenon.

                  My best guess is that it’s similar to how people feel they are good drivers and can use their phones while driving but no one else should. Or driving drunk. “Just this once is okay. I’ll be careful.”

                  The critical thing to understand is that this isn’t a change of heart. There’s no real regret here. It’s “it was okay for me but not for you.”

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        Ive had enough run ins with them to know they don’t support other women. They are often extreme in their judgments of other women.

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    Recently found out that there’s a $500 college scholarship given to young conservative men that can prove that they respect conservative women or something like that. Fucking hilarious that even conservative women don’t expect respect from what they see as their own in-group. Also pretty sad, but it was created by a book club founded solely because the other one was “too liberal”, so I can’t feel all that bad for them.

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    There’s no shock, just denial or refusal to accept that they’re treated like property. Or, self-hatred to the extent that they do see what’s happening but support it anyway.

    It’s like a perfect storm of stupid, evil, Stockholm syndrome, and stuck in an abusive relationship.

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      It means not seeing women as equals.

      Believing they are lower class. Lower intellect. Lower ability to make decisions, etc.

      Pretty similar to racism with its own unique stereotypes.

      I mean. All bigotry cones down to the same thing. Believing some group is less deserving of the rights and privileges you have, because you believe they are lesser than your group.