Só I started to watch Star Trek because of my husband and I have a few questions about Data (+18 talk, NSFW, so if you are under 18 leave)
So Data bangs someone on the first episode or second I don’t remember anymore, and he said he is programed in techniques and all that makes him sound like he has kamasutra books in his memory.
But I recently watched an episode (I think it was S07E01) where he gets pissed at a Borg and does all that to try to recreate emotions, including (he says to Troi) expose himself to +18 content to see if he feels something and he doenst feel nothing.
Which leads me to ask… Why all the programming if he doenst feel nothing when banging? Also, in the first episode where he bangs that woman how did it went since he can’t feel anything he just puts his pole up and she does all the riding while he just lays there? In the episode he created Lal, she sees 2 people making out and asks Guinan what’s happening and Guinan says Lal she should ask Data about it, how do you think that conversations went? Like: Dad what were those 2 people doing there? Idk, “I can’t really feel anything but the other time this girl seemed to enjoy it, just put the pole up and let her ride” Since Data is made of parts can “it” be detached? When Data cums assuming he can cum at all, does he fire nanobots or something, or nothing at all? Is the size and thickness customisable? Can he vibrate? No one ever think to give him the nickname of Sybian Soong? Since Lore is basically Data with slightly different code, does he also have a funcional pole? How interesting would it be to have a DP with both at the same time? Data was created by a man, do you think he thought Data where to find Mr. Clit?
It’s completely possible to perform all the mechanical functions of sex without feeling any pleasure or any emotions about it. Heck, I think I may have done that at some point in my life as a real human.
Data wants to be more human, but because he doesn’t have the capacity to feel emotion (without his emotion chip) he can certainly perform the activity, just not experience the emotion and pleasure.
Edit: the Borg Queen gives Data skin so he can feel physical pleasure in the Star Trek: First Contact movie. You should totally watch it if Data feeling pleasure intrigues you…
Everything mentioned here is great, but remember, he also has the memories of all the colonists from Soong’s planet, so, not only is he programmed for sex, he has first hand experience
Omg I never thought about that, imagine him going through the memories and watching others bang 😂😂😂😂😂 did the colonists knew about that? That Data had their memories and I assume Lore also?
Imagine the blackmail he could do. “So I have your memories and you are cheating on your spouse, gimme money or I’m going to show this to your spouse and end your marriage” and then project said memories (assuming he can do that)
IIRC, he got the memories when Soong realized the colony was going to be destroyed by the Crystaline entity, and he was never really alive on the colony, so that doesn’t quite work I don’t think lol
Data doesn’t have emotions, but he does form attachments, has preferences and priorities, and can view experiences as positive (preferable) and negative (not preferable). So while he doesn’t experience things the same way that we do, he can still value the experiences.
The mechanics of Little Data (Datum?) are obviously never established, but given that he breathes and grows hair, it wouldn’t surprise me if the thing couldn’t double as squirt gun / turkey baster. I’m sure Soong would have probably wanted Data to be able to father a kid the old fashioned way if he chose to. Hell, now that I think about it, the old man may have kept some samples on ice in case Data ever needed them.
Counselor Deanna Troi: How did he put it? “As I experience certain sensory input patterns, my mental pathways become accustomed to them. The inputs eventually are anticipated and even missed when absent.”
Which could be seen as a way of defining the mechanics of how emotions work.
I think there are very good arguments that Data does have emotions, but they get expressed in different ways. If curiosity is considered an emotion (I’ve read competing ideas on that), then Data certainly has at least one emotion.
The Orville explicitly ran with this idea.
“Squirt gun / turkey baster” 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹 About the rest, the idea that he carries his fathers biological tadpoles around is gross 😂😂😂😂
I’m not saying he actually has the stuff. More that I could see it being something Soong had in storage in his lab and was going to give to Data along with the chip, but never got the chance.
Little Data (Datum?)
I’m not sure what you’re going for here, but
- Datum = singular
- Data = plural
Im just laughing here because Data is the Portuguese word for date, the DD/MM/YYYY kind, not the “romantic encounter” kind And Datum is the German word for exactly the same thing 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Little Data (Datum?)
Data Point
No one ever think to give him the nickname of Sybian Soong?
I’ve made a terrible mistake
Remember that Lore is Data’s older brother, which shows that Soong had already figured emotions out (albeit with some significant bugs) before he built Data. Between that and the fact that he made an emotion chip for Data, it’s clear that he fully intended Data to have them, so why would he leave out any of the other hardware that used them?
Soong created a chip with the full spectrum of human emotion, put it on Lore, gave Lore no means of control said emotions, and then acts surprised when Lore goes full psycho? Dude never studied history? Why did I think people take so many anti depressants and shit? With Portugal being #1 consumer on Europe. I’d be surprised if Lore didn’t went psycho! Poor guy. And if Data ever gets emotions if he doenst go psycho is because he had time to process the world before being flooded by said emotions. Like humans do, they are born and learn to process more complex emotions as they grow up, or should … but that’s another story
Did data ever end up getting that emotion chip or did lore keep going with both his emotions and data’s?
He does in one of the films. He sings a little song while scanning for life forms, then gets scared and hides under a table on an away mission.
He experiments with the emotion chip in Generations as above, and by the time of First Contact he seems to be able to handle it well enough to leave it active all the time until Picard specifically suggests that he deactivate it.
Why all the programming if he doenst feel nothing when banging?
Presumably, his knowledge base includes recognizing signs and signals from his partner and how to react accordingly.
Also, in the first episode where he bangs that woman how did it went since he can’t feel anything he just puts his pole up and she does all the riding while he just lays there?
Fully functional is fully functional, not just a dead fish. Also it was with Tasha Yar in s1e3 “The Naked Now” (if the pilot is counted as 2 episodes).
The rest is likely answered by various fan fiction.
Presumably, his knowledge base includes recognizing signs and signals from his partner and how to react accordingly.
dude, have you seen this show?I know that you know better. he might make a lucky guess once in a great while and somewhat predict another person’s reaction, but he’s pretty shit at doing that. even after he gets emotions.The whole episode is a mess. Sure, its a callback to “The Naked Time” silliness, but that his positronic neural net would also be affected is a stretch. One can only hope he was an attentive lover.
Some early episodes have to be taken with some leniency as the show was just starting to work out the characters and ideas. Much like a TOS fan would watch the pilot episode and see Spock very animated and even smiling at one point and just shrug it off knowing that’s not how he ends up.
As he explained in the episode, his positronic functions were as much a matter of biochemistry as they were technology.
Só, not a dead fish but close to it? Like a “jack-hammer”? Just dang dang dang and after 20 min asking “did you come?” 😹😹😹
Not a dead fish, but a weirdly electrified one. And you wouldn’t have to ask him if he came, because that would electro zap you too.
Although, he would apologize way too much
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I mean some people are into electro play, not my case tho I’m afraid of everything related to electricity
Data is not (or, wasn’t during the period you’re referring to) capable of feeling human emotions– physical sensation, he can feel just fine, possibly better than humans. he was “fully functional” from a physical perspective. so, he was perfectly capable of feeling the pleasure of sexual intercourse (or any other physical sensation like hot or cold)… he just wasn’t capable of enjoying it (or not, as the case may be)
When Data finally becomes capable of feeling human emotions, well… it’s quite a journey: (also, this scene demonstrates the differences I’m describing)
physical sensation, he can feel just fine, possibly better than humans
If “First Contact” is cannon, not as well as humans. Þe Borg queen modifies him to enhance his physical senses to biological levels, implying a more muted base sensitivity.
You’re getting downvotes, but you’re not wrong
They use thorns instead of th, so always attract downvotes when their posts contain words with th in them.
I mean, I’m aware of san’s memery with the Þ. Seems silly to downvote over.
You don’t need to feel emotions to understand the chemical, physical and psicological reactions during intimate moments.
A robot may know that an orgasm is a release of neurotransmitters in the brain, how you get one from stimulating certain nerves in the genital area, and the expected recations, all without every feeling one, just like you generally know how it works before you feel your first one.
You can logically understand all the procress because, at a fundamental level, it’s all physics and chemistry.
When Data banged Tasha Yar, he probably perfectly imitated a sexually-capable male, what is not clear is if he liked it or felt anything, please ore emotiom wise.
As for the borg episode you mentioned (I never saw it) if he watched porn he probably recognize all the “mechanical” actions, maybe even learns new techniques, but doesn’t feel aroused as a human would.
I think it’s S07E01
Finally I can post this
I forgot how weird that video was.
Its a shame they never had anything else hit, the poetry night style set to music was really unique. At least they kept making music for years and years.
Its a shame they never had anything else hit,
What? Cheesecake Truck is a classic; if I had to guess þe most famous KM song, þat would be it.
That would have fit even better to that trans man’s story about his junk falling out of his pants when he went into a stall to piss, just to roll into the next (occupied) stall.
I wonder what the guy who played Data is up to nowadays
He’s still mad at the cat actor that played Spot, because it was such a consistent asshole on the set.
That makes the eps where Data is fawning over the demon cat even more funny.
What ep is that ? It must be funny 😹
Here is a random youtube clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46fKmI9sVaE
from TNG, Season 7, episode 6, “Phantasms”
That’s the cat who scratch the shit out of rikers face isn’t it?
Brent Spiner does often appear in random roles here and there though he’s slowed down more recently. He was the wacky scientist guy in the Independence Day movies for example, LOL. He was also great in the Outcast TV series but I get the feeling it wasn’t as well known.
If he his still alive he must be facepalming so hard at the theories people have about how Datas pole works 😹😹😹😹 among other things 😹😹😹😹
He’d probably have a blast!
He’s always been easygoing and funny at conventions, there’s a lot of videos where he impersonates Patrick Stewart (Cap. Picard)
Ah yes my man showed one of those videos to me. There is ep where Data hijacks the ship using Picards voice and I thought it was voice over, I didn’t believe it was the actor doing the voice of Picard and my man showed me the video and I was like 😱😱😱😱😱😱 that guy is the human version of that bird that can mimic every sound, mocking bird or whatever it’s called
Omg I rewatched that episode last week and I didn’t think of that, I assumed it was voiceover too, even thinking that is was slightly different than the normal Picard voice to fake it being mimicked 🫠
So I’m not alone !!! There was an episode where Data mimics the voice of a little boy that lived in the colony but I don’t remember which one it was… I thought 💯 it was voice over… it’s not.
I’m telling you that man is the human version of a mocking bird, if one day he wakes up and decides to hack shit, everything that works on voice recognition is bye bye he can bypass that like it’s nothing
He also had a recurring role on Night Court, but I think that show’s cancelled now so I dunno.
He is in a lot of stuff here and there. I think.
I think he became a catholic monk and calls himself Brother Adrian now
Thanks for the warning, but to make the the warning, can edit this and put “[NSFW]” in the post title, please?
Done
Why you two so interested in robot balls?
Just wondering if someone took that as inspiration to design sx toys 😹
I’m a trans guy so I’ve certainly browsed the options for detachable penii, I’ve seen one that does do the “turkey baster/ squirt gun” thing with some kinda facsimile batter, lol.
What? But wait a minute does it stays hard the whole time or goes away after 30 seconds like most cis straight guys do?
Stays hard the whole time, lol. Trans guys can go all night. ;)
Packers stay flaccid, what’s called “pack and play” (uncomfortably, that’s also a term for collapsible playpens) kinda fold down so you can pack with them and adjust them to be fully functional, but you’ve got all the problems of being a shower rather than a grower with those and they’re kinda in the way for daily wear. Most of the more gimmicky ones are bedroom use only but swapping for the bedroom is practical for other reasons.
Why are you not?
