If adopted, the reform would allow 13- and 14-year-olds to face prison sentences for serious crimes
That feels like an underlying issue is being actively ignored.
Our right-wing government loves to follow in America’s old footsteps… it’s sooo much better that we put a ton of young teenagers in really expensive “prisons”, instead of removing the monopoly that criminals’ have: their biggest cash cow, cannabis.
Diverting tax money to prisons will help them defund things like healthcare and education, so it’s a win-win.
It’s almost like conservatism is an ideology based on returning the working class to feudalism or something.
Thankfully the working class outside of the largest city centres all vote conservative.
I doubt cannabis is the biggest business of organized crime.
When one says “criminal gangs in Sweden”, they’re mostly referring only to blue-collar crime. And yes, it is one of their largest income sources after the various types of fraud (tax, welfare, and personal frauds).
Det uppskattas att 100–150 ton narkotika importeras till Sverige årligen och de vanligaste typerna av narkotika som smugglas in i Sverige är hasch (52 %), marijuana (22 %), kokain (12 %), amfetamin (11 %) och övrigt 3 % (Polismyndigheten, 2021c). Tillsammans motsvarar dessa narkotikapreparat ett försäljningsvärde på 10–15 miljarder kronor av vilket ca 80 % (8,3–12,5 miljarder kronor) årligen uppskattas återinvesteras i ny narkotika. De resterande 20 % är brottsvinster och utgör 1,2–2,8 miljarder kronor (Figur 1), vilket beräknas vara mindre i verkligheten med tanke på transport, logistik, förvaring, omkostnader och beslag av narkotikapartier.
Source: https://polisen.se/contentassets/98c220457ffa421cb604859eb2f3b142/den-kriminella-ekonomin-240916.pdf
So 74% is cannabis. And then consider, how many of those other drugs would have reduced exposure if cannabis users weren’t “forced” to socialize with dealers?
I’m with you
But looking at prosecuted youth, cannabis is pretty much in the lead everywhere
We shouldn’t destroy the life of our youth just for smoking a fucking joint
Good. Every jurisdiction in the world should do this. When I was 13 I knew damn well the difference between right & wrong and I knew not to commit crimes. So tired of people saying that people’s brains aren’t fully developed until age 25. Bullshit. People know the difference between right & wrong from a very young age. The first time you tell them something is wrong, they understand it. The only exceptions are psychopaths & sociopaths, they are a different breed and need special attention & care & therapy. Everyone needs to be held accountable for their actions to maintain a safe environment for themselves & others.
I mean, the science doesn’t support your beliefs, but you do you.
Science is just Leftist. Throw everyone in jail forever.
And what science would that be? Basic understanding of morality, right and wrong, is one of the first things humans learn.
'You’re not allowed to hit your sister '; A normal five year old would have that understanding.
The human brain has different ways of understanding the world around it at different ages. For example, teenagers are much more likely to take risks:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3445337/
Similar differences appear in impulse control.
Sure but that doesn’t support your argument. And certainly does not support the obvious conclusion that a 13 year old knows murder is wrong!
Is there a reason to not lower it to preschool age in that case?
Becky Smith should have done hard time in the can for knocking over my ice cream cone. Those soft touchy feely Liberals just let her grow up and have her own kids.
Tell me why you think it would be a good idea to lower the age of accountability to age 4. You came up with that idea, not me.
I don’t know that I think anyone should be held accountable for their actions, but I’m just trying to engage with your view. If the idea is that people who understand right from wrong should be held accountable then surely all people should be held to the same standard. Barring developmental disorders, 4-year-olds already understand right from wrong, so why should they be treated differently?
I cannot wrap my head around how people don’t think anyone should be accountable for their own actions?? I was raised in the 1970s and 1980s and accountability was huge. Even as kids we knew when we fucked up and we straightened out damn quick.
I’m pretty sure this lack of accountability mindset has come about in more recent decades, thanks to such heinous precedents set by the likes of Casey Anthony & OJ Simpson. People can literally get away with murder nowadays even when clearly guilty.
There’s no such thing as accountability anymore. Lies & deception & narcissism & psychopathy are the magic recipe for skating through the world blameless of all your wrongdoings.
I suspected that would need explaining, but I didn’t want to go off on a tangent about my beliefs.
I don’t think free will exists. Setting aside what I’d like to believe about souls, the only thing I have evidence for is that we’re nothing but the chemical reactions happening within our bodies. Everything about who and what we are is determined by environmental factors that no one has any control over. You can’t choose how kind or intelligent you are any more than you can choose to fly.
People who do bad things need to be stopped in only order to prevent further harm. If we can change them or negotiate with them so that they won’t harm people anymore, they should be free to live in society, especially if they’re able to make reparations to their victims. If they can’t be healed or reasoned with then they’ll have to stay in prison indefinitely, but as a necessity, not as a punishment.
Imagine a rabid dog kills a child. The dog can’t choose whether it’s a good boy or a monster; it just is what it is. You can’t bring the child back to life or improve the dog’s behavior by beating it, so what’s the point?
Oh so is THAT why everyone behaves so sociopathically these days? Because your minds are not living in the real world? You believe that your bodies are detached from your free will therefore all the hideous harmful illegal things you do are not your fault? Well that’s what prison is for. To keep people like you locked away from the rest of us who know how to obey the law. I loathe coexisting with you psychotic people.
Way to not answer the legitimate question. How about you take some accountability for your own faulty logic and answer the question? Should we imprison four year olds, since they know the difference between right and wrong? Maybe the ‘huge’ accountability they thought in the seventies and eighties wasn’t so huge after all.
You know as well as anyone else that 4-year-olds are still learning about everything, including still learning the difference between right & wrong. Now you please kindly go get a life and stop interacting with me, you dim-witted buffoon.
“the only exceptions are psychopaths and sociopaths”
Thats all you.
